Mr. Patrick O'Sullivan:

I should clarify. There is a lot of current funding towards Traveller liaison officers in the local authorities as well. They do an extremely important role because they are the bridge between the local authority and the Traveller groups locally. That is directly. When it comes to estate management, though, it needs funding whether someone is in standard housing or Traveller-specific accommodation. There is estate management, be it cutting the grass or whatever.