Mr. Garret Doocey:

From the departmental perspective in the context of the climate action plan and increasing the numbers using public transport, there are results, surveys and evidence - domestic, and certainly international - that show to attract people to public transport, the biggest drivers are availability - is there a service?: frequency, how often does it show up?; and reliability, will it show up when it is meant to show up? They are the three big drivers of getting people onto public transport. Affordability is absolutely one of the issues but it is nowhere near as big a driver as those other three. That is the evidence.