James Lawless (Kildare North, Fianna Fail)

Yes. It is a complex area and one I know the Deputy knows very well. Within the further education estate, we have several different historical paths into that area. It is, therefore, quite a complex tapestry. I am learning myself about the different moving parts within it. Different aspects have come through different trajectories to get there, so there can sometimes be a degree of misalignment between grades and roles. It is challenging to align them. This also happens in the technological universities in the context of merging some of the components. It is an issue I am aware of. I will continue to try to understand it further and see what actions can be taken to help synchronise the different elements. This goes back to some of the questions earlier concerning the grades and industrial relations issues too.