Eileen Flynn (Independent) | Oireachtas source

That is fine to a certain extent. We can do training for judges because that has not been done before. I am gone past the point of training teachers or training people to deal with other human beings. As Deputy Ó Cuív has said here numerous times, pilot programmes and training can be a pure waste of time. We are kicking the can down the road. We are not doing the implementation we are supposed to do and the Government is not doing its job. I am not taking away from anything. I agree with training for judges because we have never done that, but when it comes to local authorities, Travellers do vote and they are part of electing county councillors. It can mean letting them off scot-free. Even when we deliver programmes on Traveller culture in school, we never deliver what Traveller culture is. We talk about the issues. The whole thing of Traveller training is someone like me going in and saying, “Traveller women die 12 years earlier.” That is nothing to do with Traveller culture. It is meeting the community where it is at and meeting an individual where they are at, but when it comes to training and pilots, we as a committee are past that. I support training for the judges, but again, when they do the training, it is not really Traveller culture they are educated on but rather issues that impact on the Traveller community.