Oireachtas Joint and Select Committees
Wednesday, 21 February 2024
Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection
Energy Poverty: Discussion (Resumed)
Mr. John Mullins:
I thank the Deputy for his commentary on the solution. I also agree that there are people who are not part of a housing association and in poor private rental accommodation who certainly be a target. For EnergyCloud to actually create scale the scale is with organisations such as Clúid Housing, Tuath Housing, Cork City Council, Cork County Council and Fingal County Council, etc. That is where we get the opportunity to access a whole group of customers who have the opportunity to opt into the scheme. It is important to say, Sharon does not have to be awake at 3 o'clock in the morning to determine if the wind is blowing. Once someone opts in, it is automatic. They get their tank and he or she wakes up in the morning with a full tank of hot water that did not cost them anything. It is really important we talk to that.
I will take the Deputy's third point and Ms McDonnell might come back on the second. On the issue of wind energy anybody looking at this - and I look at this clearly from being a participant in Irish renewable energy for many years - the reality is that we are heading towards a potential curtailment number of 15%. If we stack on that, offshore winding coming on off the Cork coast, the east coast or the west coast, that will be significantly higher unless we have a number of solutions. One, we need more interconnection. Clearly, the interconnector to France is a very good addition. A new interconnection to Wales is a very good addition. We need more battery storage to the point to create grid stability. In addition to that, solutions such as this will play their part to add to grid stabilisation because, as I said to Deputy Ó Cathasaigh and we both agreed, this is in essence an aggregated battery storage unit made up of water tanks. The problem will be exacerbated over the next decade and that means the opportunity is much higher. I hope we can get to the singular rental situation but the opportunity in terms of creating a big stack is to do to organisations such as Ms McDonnell does. Will Ms McDonnell take the second point?
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