Verona Murphy (Wexford, Independent) | Oireachtas source

-----because lessons are only learned when you get your hand caught in the sweet jar. There is no denying. You are there; your hand is in it. The reality is it does not matter. No lessons are learned unless there is accountability. I can clearly see here that somebody is of the understanding that just because we commissioned the KPMG report for, as I said, part of the arse covering, that does not show accountability.