Ms Kate Duggan:

I hope I have captured the four questions correctly. Please come back if I have not. In regard to the last question, the organisation to which we refer to has been reported in the media. There is a process piece there in regard to the allegations that have been made and the investigation that is ongoing. In regard to the risk factors, the first thing to say is that, unfortunately, and this is the case worldwide, there are always going to be individuals who intend to harm and abuse children and young people. Those individuals often seek out organisations that provide services to children and young people to enable them to access children and young people. The risk in child protection terms is significantly high, no matter how big or small the organisation. The Senator referenced the smaller group with a neighbour or with the family member. We know from the work we do that most of the abuse we see and that is referred to us is where abuse is done by somebody known to the individual. I do not want to underestimate the risk to child protection that is there, whether it is an organisation that works with one, two or 1,000 people. That is really important. That is where there is the piece in regard to that wider societal context and the State piece in regard to generating a culture right across society around child protection.

The Senator asked about the proactive-----