Marc Ó Cathasaigh (Waterford, Green Party) | Oireachtas source

That is certainly true on the ground.

I also wish to discuss above-the-shop living in Waterford. It comes with a host of co-benefits, such as those relating to the decarbonisation programme under Project 2040 to bring people back into city centres, or even in terms of injecting retail life. Many towns and cities throughout the country die a death after 6 p.m. We should be bringing people back into city centres and encouraging city centre living. The repair and lease programme has concentrated on urban centres in particular. How far down the road are we, however? What challenges are in front of us in terms of unlocking in a serious way the above-the-shop accommodation that exists not just in cities, but also in towns and villages in the context of the type of urban renewal we want to see in those places as well? What are the challenges, constraints and difficulties in that regard?