Mr. Leo Kearns:

My opinion and the advice that has been given are exactly what I described in the opening statement. We put a bit more detail behind it but that is it. If that is not the outcome of this, as we said in the statement, this is fatally undermined. We are giving that kind of advice and saying it involves the HSE and the Department. I believe they are committed to this. It may be that there is a growing understanding of all of these issues but it simply will not work if we just move chairs on the deck. You could make an argument for saying that some of those services are shared services - in other words, they are providing a shared service. That is a different thing from a control function. Even with a shared service, if the shared service cannot deliver the service, it effectively becomes a control function because they are so busy doing all this stuff, they are not responding to what I need here.