Ms Jessica Traynor:

If only I had the answer to that question. Education is hugely important in this. One of the places where we say in the report that we want training to be in place is in third level colleges ion the performing arts courses and at youth theatre level and youth choirs, youth ballets, etc, where the issue of dignity, trust and respect in the workplace is in place and is a given, irrespective of what level of training or development one is at, so that people are talking about it at a very early age and know that certain types of behaviour are not acceptable. We have spoken with some of the third level institutions about this and about introducing modules.

On the awareness campaign that we talked about with the Department, perhaps we need to be more overt in our invitations to men to be part of this conversation and to say that we know from our report that 67% of perpetrators were identified as men, but 42% were identified as women. It is about the nature of the behaviour. Women are more inclined to bully, but they are 3.5 times more susceptible to experience sexual harassment by male perpetrators. Conversations out there are very gender-balanced here but it may not be here. We could give more overt invitations rather than perhaps waiting for certain men to come to us, and, again, work this out together.