Mr. Declan Gibbons:

We need a sustainable base model of funding for all stations that are licensed, which means they meets certain standards. We need a base model of funding provided there. I would like community stations, in particular, to be considered and included, and not just considered and ignored, in public spending campaigns, of which there are many. We are not included in JNLR research; it is important to mention that. That is by regulation from the BAI. Its view of the community sector is that we are here to deliver social benefit and there should not be a focus on listenership. Many of our commercial supporters locally, which are businesses that support us, will support us to a certain degree because they support us and they are in favour of us, but, ultimately, the conversation will be about how many listeners we have. We do not have the same mechanism to provide that information.