Ms Lynsey Kavanagh:

It is important to note that Pavee Point and many other Traveller organisations always take an intersectional approach to our work. We recognise that Travellers, Roma and other peoples are not homogenous groups. Mental health is not homogenous either. Traveller women's perinatal mental health is different from Traveller men's mental health. We always adopt that intersectional approach. As Mr. Reilly mentioned earlier, we always adopt both a mainstream and targeted approach to ensure that services are accessible for Travellers and are intercultural. We work with our colleagues in the HSE to make sure that is the case. As Mr. Reilly said, unless we have the data to allow us to identify people, it is very difficult for mainstream services to do that. That is why we have spent the past 30 years talking about this ad nauseum. To inform services and policies and to ensure equity across the board, data are needed. That is the key point. Such data are needed if we are to ensure the intersectional concerns the Deputy has raised can be addressed in an equitable way.