Oireachtas Joint and Select Committees

Tuesday, 13 July 2021

Joint Committee On Health

Impact of Covid-19 on Mental Health of Travellers: Pavee Point

Mr. Patrick Reilly:

It was a broad question in a sense. For anyone that is experiencing mental distress and reaching out for support, first and foremost, the support needs to be there and there should not be a worry. The Deputy touched on young Travellers for example. I worked with young Travellers, including my own nephews, and they said they worry about being discriminated against before it even happens.

We must think about the impact that has. I will refer to our collaboration with the HSE. This touches on the issue of the ethnic identifier that Ms Fay spoke about. Members might be aware of the national service whereby people can text "HELLO" to 50808. We worked with the HSE to train more than 500 volunteers. The service now allows people to text "Pavee" to 50808. The word "Pavee" is the word for "Traveller" in our language. When the service sees the word "Pavee" in a text, it will know that a Traveller sent it. We are catching Travellers there. In the absence of the ethnic identifier, we cannot wait around. It is as simple as that. We worked with the HSE to provide this training. It is a useful service for Travellers. Travellers on a site or sitting outside on the step can text the service and get support. There are people there who are trained up for that.

I will go back again to the idea that one shoe fits all. I said this at a meeting during the term of the previous Oireachtas. Services are tailored to deal with anyone who comes in the door. Everyone is treated the same. That has the potential to do more harm than good even though people might not think that is the case. What works for one community might not work for another. The importance of those data Ms Fay spoke about is that service providers like to know who is coming into their services. They want to provide a good service. With those data, providers can tailor their services to their service users. It is therefore very important that these data are collected. I am on a halting site at the minute. If I fill the trailer with ten or 11 Traveller men and we make decisions for women without women present, how will those decisions fit when they fizzle down the line? I hope that answers the Deputy's question. It was a broad question. Ms Fay may have something to add.

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