Mr. Nigel Renaghan:

I can take that question. First, there are only 1,800 organic farmers in the country. It is not a massive number of farmers. That is the first starting point. On what we are doing, we have an organic project team within IFA. That was set up by John Curran, the Meath chairman, and myself. That has only been up and running for approximately three years. Since then, we had a producer day in Marlay Park. We have lobbied in the same way as Mr. O’Donnell. We are all looking for the same things. We are trying to get a margin for farmers. In terms of what we are doing, there is an island off Donegal called Árainn Mhór Island. We have been out there a couple of times. They are not able to finish the lamb that comes off the mountain on the island. We have had two meetings: one with the Longford lamb producer group, and one with the Monaghan lamb producer group. The Monaghan lamb producer group is the biggest lamb producer group in the country. We spoke to the boys on the island and asked them about the number of lambs that they have. We are talking about finishing them off in either Longford or Monaghan and selling them as Árainn Mhór lamb in a kind of joint venture. That is what we are looking at doing.

In terms of the market for lambs, there is some market for lamb. Irish Country Meats is paying €8.40 a kilo for organic lamb. If people are in a producer group, that is what they are doing that. The other thing is that the demand has to be created. These are the people who can create that demand. The Government has a huge weight on its shoulders in how it promotes this. How does one get it up to 7.5%, or get up to 25% of the European-----