Mr. Seán Ó Foghlú:

I will start at the end first. The committee members can be assured that we have got to know our colleague in the ISSU well in recent months, including Reuban Murray, the current president, and the previous president. We have been working closely with them. The committee may recognise that the student voice is perhaps having a coming of age at the moment in the current discussions and debates. Their voices on calculated grades were important as was the nature of their engagement with their members. They are part of our engagement, as are parents. We have to be careful and find different ways of engaging with parents and students beyond the representative bodies. The inspectors have good ways of linking in with groups of students and getting-----