Alan Kelly (Tipperary, Labour) | Oireachtas source

If it was informal, it was a long informal meeting. His next diary appointment was over three hours later. Will the delegates go back, once and for all, so we can cut out all this rubbish and find out whether there are minutes, notes or anything else to do with that meeting? Could they also confirm the position in writing? In fairness to Senator Swanick, he determined it was the only meeting that has never been minuted. It was a meeting between the Minister for Health and the director of the HSE. These meetings are all minuted, obviously; we have seen some of these. It looks like the meeting in question was the only meeting that was never minuted. I accept everything the Secretary General has said on the Department and knowledge of Ministers but the meeting was the only one at which we do not know what was spoken about. It happened to be the one with the then Minister for Health. Will the delegates please come back to me on that because Senator Swanick deserves a response?