Seán Fleming (Laois, Fianna Fail) | Oireachtas source

Yes, but I will allow Deputy O'Connell to come in on other issues. On this issue, it is very important to read what is in front of us today, namely, the appropriation accounts for Vote 24, Department of Justice and Equality. The Comptroller and Auditor General in his report of 26 September 2017 on this matter heads the paragraph on page 7 as: "Non-effective Expenditure". The figure under that heading is €3.89 million. Non-effective expenditure in lay man's terms is a waste of taxpayer's money. It is the polite way of saying a waste of taxpayer's money. Effectively the Comptroller and Auditor General's report contains a paragraph which says that €3.89 million of taxpayer's money was wasted. It is one of the most egregious wastes of taxpayer's money that this committee has seen in that there was no value for the taxpayer when it was all over. Despite the reports that were done in 2011, this committee is far less satisfied on this topic now than at any other stage. We want a complete report on this from the Department. This has nothing to do with Ms McPhillips personally because she was not in her current position at the relevant time. However, we will want to hear-----