Mr. Michael O'Sullivan:

I am not denying that checkpoints were not done. I am saying that to identify the scale involved would have taken a detailed examination of more than 502,000 records. I am also on record as having stated that it would take one individual more than 21 years to listen to the recordings related to these 502,000 records. I did not deny that checkpoints were not being done. My report and the Crowe Horwath report highlight the fact that this was not picked up in divisions as a failing. There are now fixes in place. One of the key findings in both reports was on the lack of supervision. I highlighted at the previous meeting the lack of supervision at sergeant, inspector and district officer level. There was no intrusive supervision during the period in question.