Catherine Murphy (Kildare North, Social Democrats) | Oireachtas source

They were cut to the bone from what I can see. There will be a deficiency of service because if there is an option to go and work somewhere else, people will choose it. I definitely see that pattern. It is not just about people's pay. It will be about the ability to deliver services too. Mr. Dempsey tells me that the Department of Finance essentially does not give the Department of Health enough money to deal with this. Is that what I am hearing?