Mr. Greg Dempsey:

The Department itself is not in receipt of funding which would allow the HSE to provide a level of funding, in turn, to section 39 bodies. There probably needs to be a central decision on this because we are looking at voluntary providers in the health sector and other sectors, and a decision in the health sector would have consequences for other sectors, so that is probably a central decision. Our view is that those involved in those bodies are not public servants and, at this stage, there has not been a decision to restore pay to the extent that pay was cut. It was said previously that, while we cut grants, we are not absolutely sure that there was uniformity of treatment in the grant cuts. Some agencies may have cut pay and others may not. We are not sure of the extent-----