Mr. Tony O'Brien:

The Deputy is now asking me my view on an answer I gave in a specific case at a general level. I stand by the answer I gave in the specific case, and it is important for us to remind ourselves that we are talking about what was a rogue agency. The issues that surfaced in the internal report related to the use by that body of funds which were not provided by the HSE and in respect of which there were, over successive years, clean audit certificates which entirely misrepresented the position. Clearly that has changed our view as to how much reliance the HSE can place on audit certificates, although there is no option but to place a good degree of reliance on them.