Oireachtas Joint and Select Committees

Thursday, 26 October 2017

Public Accounts Committee

Report of Comptroller and Auditor General 2016
Chapter 19 - Management and Oversight of Grants to Health Agencies

9:00 am

Photo of David CullinaneDavid Cullinane (Waterford, Sinn Fein) | Oireachtas source

Mr. O'Brien was here as a witness when we discussed the Console issue and the internal audit report. One of the exchanges between Mr. O'Brien and me concerned the role of the HSE and whether there were failings. I put the question to him whether there were any failings on the HSE side and he said there were none. I have the transcript here. He said:

[I]t is a different thing. We are talking about learnings, as the Chairman asked us earlier about learnings. Learnings are not necessarily the result of failings; they are learnings.

We have now heard from internal audit. Does Mr. O'Brien still hold the view, given what is before us now, which is a snapshot of 19 funded organisations showing in most cases the issues identified by internal audit, that there were no failings on the HSE side in terms of compliance or enforcement, or would he now have a different view?

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