Seán Fleming (Laois, Fianna Fail) | Oireachtas source

Obviously. I know my place.

I will read this out because it relates to today's issue in respect of Grace. It is from Ray Mitchell of the HSE and states "Just to advise that given the range of issues re Deloitte, the [director general] will give a short opening statement this morning". We are allocating a maximum of one hour to Grace, because we are dealing with the rest of our business in respect of section 38 and 39 organisations. He writes, of his opening statement, "Given the time constraints I will bring along copies for the members this morning" and then writes "In relation to the request for a copy of the 15 page draft report produced in May 2017 and sent to [Waterford Intellectual Disability Association], Deloitte have corresponded with us as follows". This refers to Deloitte's correspondence with the HSE, which reads:

The [Public Accounts Committee] has not asked Deloitte for access to the draft report. If such a request came, we would consider the request, but it is not normal to provide access to anything other than our final report.

We had a discussion in private session during the week about the draft report and the changes in the final version. We wrote to the HSE for a copy of the draft report it has, as the executive is our point of contact. It appears to me that the HSE seems happy enough that we write directly to Deloitte for a copy of that report. I thought that asking the HSE to provide it was the simplest way but it is saying that it has contacted Deloitte and that Deloitte will consider it. We will write to Deloitte and will confirm it with the director general of the HSE this morning.