Alan Kelly (Tipperary, Labour) | Oireachtas source

Does Mr. Waters have knowledge of the relevant meeting?

I will just stay on this matter. As I said to the Commissioner, I find it unbelievable to think, that after four days of questioning and hours and hours of witnesses, that this situation could reach back from 1990 up until the present day and that no one up along the line noticed it. I say this to Mr. Waters as Secretary General of the Department of Justice and Equality; there was the 2008 and the 2010 report - there were four reports in total - and yet it took until May 2015 before anyone saw the light. Was this a case of "see no evil, hear no evil"? The Department of Justice and Equality, Mr. Waters, his predecessors and all the other witnesses have said that was the practice and culture of the day. This is what we are hearing - this was the culture and the practice, but no one said "stop". No one said that there was something rotten to the core in Templemore and in the way it was run. At what stage did the Department realise what was happening? Mr. Waters said 2015 but, before that, did someone in the Department not see these reports?