Mr. Noel Waters:

To be quite frank, we would if it was the likes of the Irish Prison Service, the courts or land registry. To get a sense of the Department, there were four inspectors whose job it was to police the entire justice family in respect of all the Votes. They went around the country and looked at Garda accounts. We went to courthouses. We had to take on trust information being made available to us in the sense of the then Secretary General having to sign off on the appropriation account when he was the Accounting Officer.