Shane Cassells (Meath West, Fianna Fail) | Oireachtas source

I have no doubt of that, Commissioner, but in terms of dealing with the issues, it is whether there are team players willing to make that happen. Again, I refer to Mr. Barrett's reply to the same question, who spoke about having a very substantial difference of opinion with the finance director. These are his words:

I think there is a very significant difference between outputs and outcomes. There may be memos, there may be meetings, as Mr. Culhane outlined, but it changed nothing. The show went on. On my arrival in Templemore I could not believe what it was that sat in plain view despite all the memos and all the history that Mr. Culhane has referred to, it continued in plain view contrary to the blue book.

He concludes: "I did not create this, I stumbled upon it, I did not get the "let us resolve it attitude" as the first response. Those who I would have imagined were statutorily responsible for dealing with matters like this did not race to my aid, no more than that do I need to say."