Ms Mary Higgins:

Okay, well I am just explaining the rationale for saying they are not a homogenous group of people and some of them are extremely resilient and, as I referred to in the opening statement I made, have had good lives.

In terms of the statement not adding up about the staff and the trauma-informed services, they are two different things. Our own staff are carefully selected. They are supported, managed and supervised to deliver services that are appropriate to the people we are working with. What is not well understood outside of specialist services for survivors are the effects of adverse early childhood experiences and therefore not all services are well attuned to why somebody might be behaving the way they are behaving and what their needs might be. What we are planning to do over the coming years is to work more closely with mainstream service providers and specialist services to ensure that there is an awareness of early childhood trauma and the effects that has for the rest of people's lives.