Mr. Michael Donnellan:

Our prison numbers overall are in a good zone. We exclude our fines cases, otherwise they would skew our figures completely. In a typical year, last year we would have nearly 18,000 committals, almost half of them are fines cases. The anticipated benefit when those cases come out of the system in the future will be the whole washing through of people who come into prison, who are brought from outlying places in Ireland to a prison to be processed in to and be taken out. Some of the fines would be very small, television licences, other small fines.