Mr. Michael Donnellan:

In terms of getting efficiencies from capital expenditure through staffing and savings, if one goes back to 2007 with the new C block in Portlaoise Prison, which replaced the D block, as a result of that there was a bed capacity increase of 103 spaces and a staff reduction of 24 staff. That was a direct result of introducing a new building. When we opened the Dóchas women's prison there was an increased prisoner capacity of 30 with an increase of one staff member. The same applied to Loughan House. If we take a more recent example-----