Mr. Alan Stewart:

I cannot come here and say I am absolutely certain that no one in NAMA knew it. That is a very blanket statement for the Deputy to want me to make. I am saying that on the call neither Mr. Hanna nor I, nor anyone I have spoken to since, was aware of this in 2013. That is my impression. I cannot speak for every single person in NAMA. Deputy Cullinane is looking for me to make a very blanket statement, which I think is a little unfair.