Marc MacSharry (Fianna Fail) | Oireachtas source

Yes, okay. Around the same time in the early 90s, Irish Permanent, then building society, demutualised and made changes and so on and they had very much laid the foundations for their ultimate flotation. Did this add pressures to your own outlook from a corporate perspective to say, "Look, this is where the society needs to go or should ... or ought to be going"?