Mr. Gordon Jeyes:

It involves staff at the most senior level. It is a question of making sure big brother does not forget about us. We are like the "noisy neighbours" in Manchester. We are striving to be independent. I hope we are treated as independent. We are fully committed. I accept the governance commitment to shared services, which I have pioneered elsewhere, but it should be with an internal market. There should be budget transactions. We should be able to hold those who provide services for us to account. There is further work to be done in that regard.

I would like to speak about the discussions regarding psychology. I agree with Senator van Turnhout that we have created a gap between our welfare responsibilities and the mental health services. Services for disturbed young people, who often display very difficult behaviour that is hard to contain, need to be improved and enhanced. Discussions regarding psychology have not made as much progress as I would wish. I will shortly write to the HSE to say I do not think we can take those discussions any further. They think that an ever-reducing number should be coming across to us. This has been a three-year pattern. I do not think it is going anywhere. It is stuck. I need to refer it to both Departments for adjudication.