Eoghan Murphy (Dublin South East, Fine Gael) | Oireachtas source

Yes, Chairman. Yes, ... going to Frankfurt, I think, was in July 2012 perhaps, with the Minister. And I think it was the first meeting or first delegation to meet the new President, and it's been reported that following that meeting then, there was this new reflection on ... I think the quote might have been, "This is someone we can do a deal with." And then that's when things went into process in terms of doing something with the promissory notes. Would that be a fair reflection of the outcome of that meeting?