John Paul Phelan (Carlow-Kilkenny, Fine Gael) | Oireachtas source

They said, and I'm not just trying to interrupt you ... they said, and Mr. Goggin's evidence was that, because the budget was approaching, that they decided not to approach the Government at the time, but on 13 October, they were exploring the option of capital investment from the Government and, therefore, from the taxpayer.