Kieran O'Donnell (Limerick City, Fine Gael) | Oireachtas source

Really, what I'm referring to really is that it makes for very, very interesting reading that even on the security so ... when the security wasn't strong enough you took nearly €500 million back, and Anglo and Irish Nationwide made up 82% of that pull-back. So the question I'm asking really is, is that if Anglo and Irish Nationwide were not there, would there have been a need for NAMA?