Mary White (Fianna Fail) | Oireachtas source

I will be brief. I am humbled by Ms Margaret Urwin's continuous drive to get justice for the forgotten. What she has done on her own is awesome. I thank her very much for that. I concur with my colleague, Deputy Frank Feighan, that it would be appropriate, and this is not a criticism of the commemoration of the Dublin-Monaghan bombings, that we would put pressure on the Government in this regard. People have empathy with and understanding for this particular group of people, but we should try to engage with the broader Irish community. That is not a criticism but the Irish people should know about this. Over the years, if one ever suggested there was collusion, people would think one was off the wall; they would not believe it. What I found in Ms Cadwallader's book is that at long last it dealt with facts. Like Ms Urwin, Ms Cadwallader is a true Irish patriot.

In the summary of her book Ms Cadwallader states that an agreed truth recovery process is needed not only for the families of the people in the North but for both communities to try to learn from the past. What type of truth recovery process would Ms Cadwallader suggest?

I record that my former colleague in the Seanad, Tony Kett, told me many times that Tony Blair, who I believe should be in The Hague, along with George W. Bush, for all the crimes they have committed and the lies the two Governments told about Iraq where people continue to be killed every day, told the former Taoiseach, Bertie Ahern, that they would not open up any inquiry in this regard or on the Pat Finucane issue. I spoke here to the best friend of the former Taoiseach, Bertie Ahern, who is a friend of mine also, and he told me Blair has insisted he will not allow any transparency in terms of what has happened. That is a fact. I thank the two witnesses.