Paschal Donohoe (Dublin Central, Fine Gael) | Oireachtas source

He did not and I did not mean it in the spirit that Mr. Stone may have taken it. When I asked him that question, it was not for the purpose of trying to catch anybody out. It was just to illustrate a challenge we come across in all of these meetings, which is the number and huge variety of allowances which most people are not accessing and using but some people are.