Seanad debates

Thursday, 21 March 2024

9:30 am

Photo of Mary Seery KearneyMary Seery Kearney (Fine Gael)
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I welcome the ambassador.

The Order of Business is No. 1, motion regarding the orders of reference of the joint committee on drugs use, to be taken on conclusion of the Order of Business without debate; No. 2, Forty-first Amendment of the Constitution (Agreement on a Unified Patent Court) Bill 2024 – Second Stage, to be taken at 12.15 p.m. and to adjourn at 1.30 p.m. if not previously concluded, with the time allocated to the opening contribution of the Minister not to exceed ten minutes, group spokespersons not to exceed ten minutes, time may be shared, all other Senators not to exceed five minutes, and the Minister to be given no less than ten minutes to reply to the debate; No. 93, motion regarding the statement for the information of voters in relation to the Forty-first Amendment of the Constitution (Agreement on a Unified Patent Court) Bill 2024, to be discussed in conjunction with the Second Stage debate but not to be taken until the Report and Final Stages of the Bill have been concluded; and No. 3, Road Traffic Bill 2024 – Second Stage, to be taken at 2 p.m., with the time allocated to the opening contribution of the Minister not to exceed ten minutes, group spokespersons not to exceed ten minutes, time may be shared, all other Senators not to exceed five minutes, and the Minister to be given no less than ten minutes to reply to the debate.

Photo of Jerry ButtimerJerry Buttimer (Fine Gael)
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I also welcome to the Public Gallery guest of Senator Clonan, Lisa Domican. She is very welcome and I thank her for being here.

Photo of Shane CassellsShane Cassells (Fianna Fail)
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I join with the Cathaoirleach in welcoming the ambassador to the Chamber.

Regarding the events yesterday and the resignation of the Taoiseach, I pay tribute to him and his service for the country. It is important to recognise that and the role he has played in this and other Governments.

I wish to discuss an interesting piece of research that was launched today and circulated to us, entitled Mammies & Daddies report. It was a study of 500 mums and dads of kids up to 12 years of age, and I find myself in that category. It was sponsored by Aldi and it is an extensive piece of research among this cohort of society. There are some striking results, which anyone who finds themselves in that cohort will not find striking, in terms of having that discourse and the equal distribution of household tasks. In the course of referendums we have had in the past couple of weeks, we have been discussing the roles of mothers, fathers and everything. This research delves into the inequality that still exists within our households. This is to do with equal distribution of household tasks. Some 62% of women noted the non-equal distribution of household tasks and some 60% of women were looking for the requirement of greater State childcare support. Dads were involved in the conversation as well, acknowledging their ever-changing role but also the failures and pressure they find. Both stated the pressures of parenthood are putting strains on their physical and mental well-being. More than half state that since becoming a parent, their physical health has gotten worse. Strikingly, 65% of women reported the disproportionate toll parenthood takes on mums. Only 15% said their physical health had improved.

Regarding societal pressures, only 4% found it very easy to align with the societal perceptions and pressures of being a good parent. This is an interesting debate because you turn on your television and see all of the ads of what a good mum and dad is supposed to be. The media and the smiley happy faces have an impact on all this. Those of us who are parents all know that is not the reality. There is a role even for us on the media committee in dealing with advertising companies that put this perception out there. When we see the societal pressures from this research, it is adding to the strain and pressures on mums and dads.

There is a role for the State in this. There have been huge advancements in this country but we still have further to go, and this report points at that. There is a greater need for an input by the State in this area and we should discuss it with the Minister, Deputy O’Gorman. For all of us who are parents, it is interesting research to reflect on.

Photo of Tom ClonanTom Clonan (Independent)
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Gabhaim buíochas leis an Chathaoirleach, leis an Cheannaire, le Seanadóirí agus na daoine uaisle. I welcome my guest, Lisa Domican. Lisa, like myself, is a parent. She is a full-time carer for her daughter Grace, who is 24 and has autism, ADD, epilepsy and PMDD. She also cares full time for her son Liam, who is 26. They are both beautiful young people. Liam has autism and an anxiety disorder that was exacerbated during Covid, which leads to behavioural disturbances and can be quite challenging. Lisa is a carer in the family home. We have been talking about this since the proposed wording was put forward by the Government for the referendums on which the people have spoken. Lisa is part of the invisible population of carers we have. She receives no respite and no supports. She cares full time for her adult children. She gets nine hours a week of support from the HSE in CHO 6. Because we have no rights in this country to independent supports, we have to beg. Lisa had to go to the day service and respite manager in disability services in CHO 6 and ask for a further nine hours.That manager, on a capricious whim, said she could get it, but not through her personal budget, and that she had to use an aged service provider of the manager's choice. This is typical of the mistreatment of families, carers and disabled citizens and the pushback on their alienable human rights.

Why are the explicit instructions of the Minister of State, Deputy Rabbitte, to the HSE to provide services and personalised budgets to organisations like Home Care Direct being openly defied by officials in the Department of Health. I am seeking a in order that we can get the Minister for Health, Deputy Donnelly, in here to answer questions as to why his officials are refusing to carry out the instruction of the Minister of State and are acting completely contrary to the wishes of the Irish people. More than 1 million Irish people voted to vindicate the rights of independent care supports outside of the home. Lisa is the embodiment of this cruel, capricious and unnecessary pushback on rights. Why are CHO 6 and the day service and respite manager allowed to behave in this authoritarian and unfair manner?

Photo of Aisling DolanAisling Dolan (Fine Gael)
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I will speak on the importance of just transition for the countries in the midlands impacted by the change in employment and industry, particularly that relating to Bord na Móna, which has changed the sector and industry in which it is involved. We have seen this at Shannonbridge and Lanesborough. Shannonbridge is only ten miles from my home town.

Today, there is a just transition webinar on the funding available for businesses or communities - or maybe for a farm, to provide additional income coming into a home. With changes in industry and work and those relating to climate action, the additional seasonal income that farming families were getting previously is not there now. We need to see other streams of income. Fáilte Ireland is running the just transition programme and the deadline for expressions of interest in the programme is June of this year. People can probably listen to a recording of the webinar.

Regenerative tourism accommodation is one of the elements of this. It could be to do with glamping, pods or log cabins. It is a way to have bed nights. I cannot overemphasise that there are areas of Roscommon and east Galway that have no bed nights. There are no hotels. We are lucky to have hotels in the middle of the towns of Roscommon and Ballinasloe but in Mountbellow, for example, there are no bed nights, yet it has an Atlantic Technological University campus. It is a university campus town. In areas of north Roscommon, there is a great deal of pressure. If we do not have people staying in our local areas, how will they spend locally? How will we get income coming into our shops and businesses and ensure a sustainable income for the west? I encourage businesses such as shops, cafés and restaurants to consider having log cabins. Would they consider an additional source of income for their businesses? Would homes and families close to the Beara-Breifne Way, the new cycleway from Galway to Dublin or any scenic or archaeological trail consider having bed nights? If so, please apply with an expression of interest before June. It is crucial we get this funding. Over €80 million has been co-funded by the Government and there is European Union funding of another €80 million. That funding is there for us to win but we need people to apply. We need ideas, vision and entrepreneurship and we need them now.

Photo of Jerry ButtimerJerry Buttimer (Fine Gael)
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I welcome the students and teachers from St. Fintan's High School students and teachers who are here as guests of Deputy Cian O'Callaghan. I hope they have an enjoyable visit to Leinster House. We wish them an educational time here during this important item, namely the Order of Business. I call Senator Gavan.

Photo of Gerard CraughwellGerard Craughwell (Independent)
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What about homework off?

Photo of Jerry ButtimerJerry Buttimer (Fine Gael)
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I would be happy to give them homework off, but they are no longer in a single class. They have a variety of teachers. I am sure they can negotiate. Senator Craughwell, being a former trade unionist, should know they can negotiate well. We wish them every success in getting homework off. They are on the cusp of Easter holidays anyway.

Photo of Victor BoyhanVictor Boyhan (Independent)
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And Senator Craughwell needs to do his homework.

Photo of Jerry ButtimerJerry Buttimer (Fine Gael)
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I am glad you said that, Senator Boyhan. I call Senator Gavan. Sorry.

Photo of Paul GavanPaul Gavan (Sinn Fein)
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You are fine. I raise our health services. From people across the Chamber, we have had requests for the Minister of Health to come into the Seanad and so far he has not agreed to come. Having heard Senator Clonan this morning, the urgency is there for all to see.

The issue I want to raise does not relate to University Hospital Limerick on this occasion. I want to extend my range and talk about what is happening at University Hospital Kerry, where elective surgeries continue to be delayed. The situation there has been ongoing for a number of months. It has gone from being unacceptable to outrageous. Hospital staff and management are doing what they can but the need to keep other services going means elective procedures are being delayed. Routine procedures are often used to treat minor health issues which could be dealt with easily if treated early. When there are constant delays, however, these issues can develop into major health problems. This is counterproductive because having to treat the bigger health problem is not just awful and dangerous for the patient, but also more costly and demanding on the health system.

Nationally there was a spike of 48% in hospital cancellations in the first nine months of 2023. There is a direct correlation between hospital overcrowding and cancellation of elective surgeries. The Government is shifting the problem from emergency departments to waiting lists, leaving patients waiting longer for access to care. We now have a leaderless Government that consistently fails to plan and to implement Sláintecare, which has led us to this point. We need workforce planning, primary care support and innovative initiatives in a pharmacy-first model, complemented by a minor injuries clinic. At a time when rural Ireland needs flourishing communities, regional redevelopment, regional rebalancing of infrastructure and investment, instead we are seeing the downgrading of services, which will lead to more emigration and a further decline in the population of smaller towns and cities.

I find it entirely unacceptable that the Minister for Health, despite constant requests from across the Chamber, has so far failed to come in. I ask that the first item on the agenda when we return from Easter be to have the Minister in this Chamber, for the sake of all of us. We all know the crises are getting worse, not better, across our health service.

Leader, please forgive me, I have to go to another meeting so I will not be here for the response, but I will check back later.

Photo of Eugene MurphyEugene Murphy (Fianna Fail)
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I pay tribute to the Taoiseach, Deputy Varadkar. I did not happen to be around yesterday when the debate took place. I wish him well. It was quite an emotional day for him and some of the Opposition comments could have been more generous on the day that was in it. We have to have respect for one another and, while the Taoiseach did not achieve everything he wanted, he did have some achievements. Any time he came to Roscommon, we always gave him a good céad míle fáilte.

I want to dwell for a few moments on the huge problem we have on our roads. I am sure the Leader is well aware of it. Looking at the Garda road policing operation over the St. Patrick's holiday weekend, we are told there were 1,800 speeding offences, including one case of a motorist allegedly travelling at 209 km/h in a 100 km/h zone. There was another case in Dublin city of a motorist allegedly travelling at 147 km/h in a 60 km/h zone. Over and over we have breaking of speed limits. We also had 175 arrests for driving under the influence, 170 for using a mobile phone and a number for not wearing seat belts. I was caught in the past a couple of times - thankfully not recently - once for using a phone and once for breaking a speed limit, although not to the extent of the instances I have mentioned. I am not trying to pretend we are all perfect here but there is utter madness happening on our roads and the number of people, particularly young people, being killed is appalling. This is a tragedy for parents, brothers, sisters and communities. It is tearing them apart. The stress, upset and sadness of it all is shocking. I appeal to everybody-----

Photo of Jerry ButtimerJerry Buttimer (Fine Gael)
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I appeal to members to ensure their mobile phones are on silent or to use them outside the Chamber. It is distracting to the Chair, to those doing the sound recording and to other Senators. Sorry, Senator Murphy.

Photo of Eugene MurphyEugene Murphy (Fianna Fail)
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That is okay. I thank the Cathaoirleach for saying that.

I appeal to everybody - we had younger people in here a few moments ago - to drive sensibly on the roads. Gardaí are out there to do a job, and they have to do it. How many more people were not caught? This is becoming a shocking tragedy. I call for a debate on road safety with the relevant Minister. It might be a good thing to do. It might be more of a PR exercise, but it would be good to get it out there because what is happening to families and communities throughout the country is shocking.

Photo of Victor BoyhanVictor Boyhan (Independent)
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I express my thanks to the Taoiseach, Deputy Varadkar, for his service to the State and to the Government. He has done amazing work and can hold his head up with pride. He has achieved much, and it is a time to be gracious and thankful for his very considered leadership. He went out on a limb and took risks and has to be admired for that. He got many issues over the line. We do not get everything over the line, but he can be very proud of his achievements.

I want to raise the issue of the mother and baby redress scheme. The Acting Leader knows that the scheme opened for applications yesterday. With some regret and a great sense of sadness, I remind the House that the majority of Senators did not support the removal of the six-month stay requirement to ensure that all eligible children, including those who were adopted, boarded out and fostered, would be recognised and included in the mother and baby redress scheme. I have championed that cause since I came in here seven years ago. I ask again that Members on all sides go back to their parliamentary parties and engage with their ministerial colleagues to see if we can revisit this matter, because, to be precise, 24,000 people have been left out of the scheme according to today's edition of The Irish Times. That is disappointing and a pity.

It should also be remembered that a very substantial number of children in this State were the subject of drug trials. That matter has never been resolved. There is ongoing litigation and correspondence. I am very much involved in that, so I know about it from personal experience. We need to address that. We can talk about families and cherishing the children of this country equally, but it is incumbent on us all to revisit this at another time and another opportunity to see if we can address the two things, including the children who were exposed, without any parental consent or any consent of their guardians, to very significant drug trials in this State in the 1940s, 1950s and 1960s and right up into the 1970s. I appeal to my colleagues that we would work collaboratively to see if we can revisit these particular issues.

Photo of Paddy BurkePaddy Burke (Fine Gael)
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I also express my thanks and good wishes to the Taoiseach, Deputy Varadkar, a man who has experience at Cabinet as Minister, Tánaiste and Taoiseach over a 13-year period. He has been an excellent ambassador for the country, a great Taoiseach and a great Minister over the past 13 years. I wish him well and thank him for his public role for the country over those years.

I support also the proposal that we should have a debate here about road safety. I have raised the issue of road safety here on a number of occasions, particularly as regards the lack of statistics being put together after accidents, whether there is drug testing or blood testing. There is no collation of those figures at all. The Road Safety Authority should make that a priority, and I hope that the Acting Leader will arrange for a debate on road safety here with the Minister.

I also urge the Government to have a real think about reducing the VAT rate on food and separating the VAT rates for accommodation and food for the hotel industry. This is crucial. We have seen many small cafés and restaurants close because of the increasing cost that has been put in place. The Government needs to be congratulated in putting together packages to help small businesses, but there have been quite a number of severe things put in place for small businesses over recent years. The Government should look at reducing the VAT rate to 9% with immediate effect, particularly seeing that we will be coming into Estimates and the budget period in the coming weeks. That should be a priority for the Government.

Photo of Pat CaseyPat Casey (Fianna Fail)
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The issue I wish to raise today relates to the development levy waiver scheme that the Minister, Darragh O'Brien, introduced last April. It was introduced at the time to try to offset the inflationary cost but it has proved more successful way beyond that. The reason I say that is because there have been a significant number of developments that were probably not viable without the development levy waiver scheme. That could be related to small developments in more rural towns or rural areas which it has facilitated in the delivery of the housing stock. It has also assisted in the whole area of affordability, and the third area relates to the one-off rural houses. Those were also able to avail of the development levy waiver scheme, and each rural applicant building his or her house at the moment gets that levy waived. That could be anything from €5,000 up to €12,000, depending on each application. As I said, it will come to an end on 24 April next. It is time to reflect on the success of this scheme. I call today for the scheme to be extended further. We are making progress in housing. We see that progress in every one of our counties. We see housing being built. Now is not the time to take the foot off the accelerator. There is an initiative here that is working. We must keep it working in order that we can continue in the delivery of housing. I call on the Minister, Deputy O'Brien, to extend the development levy waiver scheme at least for another year.

Photo of Sharon KeoganSharon Keogan (Independent)
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I am relieved that the UK has finally prohibited puberty blockers for minors. It is a bit late, but it is welcome news. Medically transitioning minors is the greatest medical mistreatment scandal on record. However, this travesty continues unchallenged in Ireland. Puberty blockers such as Lupron continue to be used for the medical castration of convicted rapists. Adjusting and amending the physical simply cannot erase the mind, biology and spirit of gender. We do an injustice as a society by not exploring the treatment of gender dysphoria beyond altering the body. The scale and volume at which the UK treated gender-dysphoric minors obviously exceeds our own. There is no need for us to undertake a study in the hopes we arrive at some politically expedient alternative in order to continue puberty blockers and other treatments. If the HSE is considering studying this matter, perhaps Ireland should pioneer and spearhead psychiatric and mental health studies on gender dysphoria. Let us treat the condition, not the symptoms. Let us help droves of young people and their families facing this sensitive and difficult condition with real medical assistance and not a lifetime subscription to pharmaceutical products, experimental surgeries and, most tragically of all, persistent suicide rates in gender transition surgeries. Gender dysphoria is real and the issue deserves vast evidence-based treatment. I hold the medical industry and the Minister for Health to the standards of the Hippocratic oath and call for an end to this tragic harm inflicting our youth.

On a separate and more important note, the mother and baby institutes payment scheme is now open for applications. I cannot believe this Government would demand photographic ID for people in their 80s and 90s. Can we write to the Minister as a matter of urgency today and ask him to accept old passports that could be used to verify their identity? Many of those people who will be claiming under this scheme will not have up-to-date passports. Could the Acting Leader write to the Minister today to see if he would accept that? They would not have a photographic passport either and they definitely would not have any passports up to date. Will the Acting Leader do that today, as a matter of urgency?

Photo of Erin McGreehanErin McGreehan (Fianna Fail)
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I echo the calls for the continuation of the waiver of development fees. It was a hugely successful scheme and it is really important that we continue it. I hope that sense will prevail and that those very worthwhile waivers will be continued.

I also want to raise an issue that is very important for Border counties, particularly Louth.It is about the increase in excise duties on fuel that will happen from 1 April. I am disappointed the Government is refusing to look at this. In particular, I want to highlight the fact that the UK Chancellor of the Exchequer, Jeremy Hunt, has announced the UK will not increase its excise duty because of the cost of living and many other reasons. It is postponing its increase and I hope we can also postpone our increase. There will be trade displacement, particularly along the Border region, where drivers will cross the Border to avail of cheaper fuel. The forecourts in County Louth will have a great reduction in demand. The fuel prices will be different. There will be an overall loss to the Irish Exchequer. I urge the Department of Finance to look at this, see what we can do and ensure there is a similar policy in both jurisdictions.

Photo of Gerard CraughwellGerard Craughwell (Independent)
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This morning I rise to raise two issues. One is the issue of wind turbines. My colleague Senator McGreehan has been working on a particular scheme in Monasterboice in County Louth. The problem is that the regulations we are working under are outdated. The turbines being put in are way bigger than any turbine that had been put in under the old regulations. All erection of wind turbines should be paused until the regulations are brought up to date. They should then be built in accordance with the modern regulations rather than the regulations from 2016. I call on the Acting Leader to raise this with the relevant Minister and put it on the clár.

This afternoon we will deal with the referendum Bill on patents. This is a very important referendum. I appeal that we do not see the citizens give the Government another hammering, as they did in the previous two referendums. We need very clear, simple and concise language that people can understand. This referendum is about business, innovators and inventors, and securing their futures in the European Union. I call on the Government to provide very simple and easy to understand language that people can vote on, not to use their vote to give a wallop to anybody but to support business in Ireland.

Photo of Mary Seery KearneyMary Seery Kearney (Fine Gael)
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I am surprised at what Senator Craughwell said about turbines. My understanding from the housing committee was that turbines are getting smaller rather than bigger. I am surprised by his point and I will certainly raise it as an issue. It seems contrary to what we were told in the housing committee as we went through the planning permission for all of these, especially offshore.

Do I infer Senator Craughwell's support for the patents Bill? It is very important and I appreciate it. The language might already be published.

Senator McGreehan raised the waiver of the development levy, which was also raised by Senator Casey. There is no question but that it has been a massive step forward in increasing the number of commencements. The extension was raised by my colleagues in the parliamentary party last night. I note it will be 24 April and we are back the week before that. Perhaps Senators could table many Commencement matters on it and act on it. There is no question that it needs to be raised.

Senator McGreehan also raised the disproportionate impact that VAT has on Border counties. I read the reports last weekend and the idea that suddenly the bottom can drop out of their business must be quite frightening for those living and earning their living along the Border. Certainly I am mindful of it. The deadline is Monday week and it is incumbent on all of us to consider this issue. I will ask the Leader to write on behalf of the Seanad to make this point.

Senator Keogan raised the issue of puberty blockers. I concur with her insofar as body dysmorphia is real and we need evidence-based treatment. From this perspective I completely agree.

With regard to mother and baby homes, there will be a disproportionate effect for older people who perhaps do not have any photographic ID. I am very happy to make representation directly to the Minister today on this. Senator Boyhan raised the extension of the mother and baby home payment scheme and I will address that in a moment. I am supporting a number of women who have been making applications since yesterday. It has not yet come up for me but I very much take on board that it has been experienced.

Photo of Jerry ButtimerJerry Buttimer (Fine Gael)
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I welcome the Gorey Youthreach group from County Wexford who are guests of Deputy Paul Kehoe. They are very welcome to Leinster House and I thank them for being here today. I hope they have a very pleasant visit and that they enjoy their Easter holidays.

Photo of Mary Seery KearneyMary Seery Kearney (Fine Gael)
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The group is very welcome.

The minute I go back to my office I will contact the Minister on the issue of photographic ID. While we are on the subject of mother and baby home redress, it is my memory that on the record of the House the Minister, Deputy O'Gorman, when it was raised with him that people were left out of the scheme, said he would review it. I have it written in big bold print on my desk with a view to holding him rigorously to it.

With regard to the drug trials, I know Senator Boyhan is working very hard on this and I hope we will have progress there. I also note there is no progress in the contribution from the religious institutions. It is probably reasonable that we would look for an updated report from the Minister, and perhaps statements on it later in this term to see how has the uptake gone. If there are any issues arising for people making claims, we should get to address them in statements in the House. I urge the House to do that.

Senator Burke, along with Senator Murphy, who gave some very frightening statistics, raised the issue of road safety. It is a disgrace that there were 1,800 speeding offences over the bank holiday weekend. I am glad they are being detected and it clearly shows enforcement by the Garda and a Trojan effort over the weekend but it is shocking. I agree that we need a debate in the House for the purposes of raising the profile of the advocate. When I was 16 years of age, my family got a phone call about a 19-year-old cousin being killed on the roads. It is a long time ago now and he would be a fine man, possibly with grandchildren, by now. Every April on the same day I relive that trauma and I am a mere cousin. For his siblings and his mother it was an horrific thing to experience. I think of them and any family with the experience of going through receiving that news and what it means and how it is for that community. There is no doubt we need to raise its profile here.

Senator Burke also raised the issue of rethinking the VAT rate. This reminded me of Senator Dolan's contribution. We are trying to get people to transition into areas for tourism. Certainly we need to be bringing people into the sector and not seeing places close. Perhaps we need to write from the Seanad to express our view in that regard. I will certainly propose it to the Leader.

Senator Gavan raised the issue of University Hospital Kerry and looked for statements in the House with the Minister, Deputy Donnelly. There is no question there is a very strong need for statements. It strikes me that a Commencement matter on University Hospital Kerry could be tabled specifically to get the issues addressed. The Minister, Deputy Donnelly, needs to come to the House on the matter.

Senator Dolan raised the fact that an information morning and webinar is going on to send out information on regenerative tourism and accommodation. Getting the information out is very important and I commend Senator Dolan for amplifying the message.There is tremendous opportunity now. The idea that there are no bed nights in Roscommon-----

Photo of Aisling DolanAisling Dolan (Fine Gael)
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There is nothing.

Photo of Mary Seery KearneyMary Seery Kearney (Fine Gael)
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That is the experience of the people advising the Senator. However, there are huge amounts of money out there - €80 million from the Government and €80 million from the EU is considerable support. We need people coming up. I liked the championing of the ideas and the opportunities in this. That is to be commended and amplified further.

I would say to Senator Clonan that there is no doubt there is a grave injustice going on. The administration of disability services and supports for families within the HSE is absolutely dreadful. One of the concerns we expressed in this House, perhaps prior to the Minister of State, Deputy Rabbitte's time here, was how would accountability be held when a Minister moved from the Department of Health into the Department of children? Where were we going to find that across Departments? How were we going to call in the Minister for Health when this is under the Minister for Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth? That is a matter of concern. Perhaps we should be framing it in terms of accountability of the HSE with the Minister for Health, Deputy Donnelly, in this particular area and have statements on that. However, it may well be that the Minister of State, Deputy Rabbitte, will also need to attend. I am not quite sure how that works, when two Departments are involved. There is an issue where people fall between CHOs. I have come across personalities within different CHOs who exercise their power. It happens in CHO 7 also. It is not unique to CHO 6. The two of them seem to have personalities who are not transparent in the exercise of their authority. We would wholeheartedly endorse having statements.

Senator Cassells spoke about the research. I would dearly love to get my hands on that. The fact is that it is difficult for parents. There is a model and societal pressure on parents to be all things to all people, to never be tired and to never come in the door and wish you could have five minutes and hide under the stairs. I saw a programme recently where someone was hiding in a wardrobe just get away from her family. While we laughed, it resonated to a certain extent, in that sometimes you have to go into the toilet to get a break because of the demands on family life. There is that sense of a bar of perfection that nobody ever reaches. We need normality to be called out. Perhaps we need a debate on parenting supports for parents. I hear that and I completely support that. I will send an email supporting that.

Several Senators paid tribute to our Taoiseach, Deputy Leo Varadkar, on his extraordinary service to our State and his extraordinary work. He certainly broke glass ceilings for the LGBT community in coming out and in assuming office as Taoiseach of our country as the son of a migrant. He has shown great nobility in his decisions. Whether one agrees with him or not, he has always been clear and transparent in where he stands and he explains why. I always found great comfort when he explained why we could not do something. He brought peace and stability to matters. I was very moved yesterday. His legacy is yet to be written and history will look incredibly kindly at him given his many achievements. He is leaving office when we have full employment, our economy is very strong, our housing and commencements are on the up and we have a satisfaction rating among our people that is extraordinarily high - it is in the nineties percentage-wise. It is an incredible achievement to have all of that. I am grateful for the tributes paid to him and add my voice to them.

Order of Business agreed to.