Seanad debates

Tuesday, 13 February 2024

Nithe i dtosach suíonna - Commencement Matters

Special Educational Needs

1:00 pm

Photo of Mark WallMark Wall (Labour)
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I, too, welcome the Minister of State to the House today to have what is an important conversation for a growing number of people in south Kildare on the issue of special school places. I sought this Commencement matter this morning because it was announced by the Minister of State, Deputy Madigan, in early December that four new special schools will be established this coming September and are to be located in Limerick, Meath, Wexford and south Kildare. This was in response, as the Government stated on the day, to the increasing numbers of students with learning needs. The announcement went on to say that these new schools will cater for approximately 120 young people with autism and complex learning needs, initially up to 18 years of age, and will gradually increase numbers over the coming years. The announcement dedicated that the areas where they would be based, as I have said, would be in Limerick city, Enfield in County Meath, Gorey in County Wexford and the south Kildare area.

Most importantly, from my point of view, the statement said that the move followed analysis which found that "the level of need in these ... areas could not be catered for by expanding places in existing ... schools." That is my experience too, and a growing experience for so many families in the south Kildare area. Increasingly, I get calls from worried parents who are being told that there is no place for their loved ones or that the school they are in at present, as is the case in one instance, cannot cope with the complex needs of their loved one. I am sure the Minister of State can imagine the torment and worry that this causes for these parents. For example, one family's loved one has started preschool. They have applied to 12 schools - some, indeed, a fair distance from where their own family home is - but, as they themselves say, they would bring their child anywhere as long as they get the education and supports that they need. Their current school has advised that even if an ASD class were available, they still would not be able to cater for the complex needs of their child. Another family have applied to schools in six different counties seeking a place for their loved one and another family have simply been unable to identify any school that may take their loved one at this particular time. The Minister of State can imagine the worry and pressure that puts on them.

One of the pressures that I wanted to raise - it is something I raised with the Minister, Deputy Foley, previously - is the whole area of the SENOs and the fact that these families are contacting 15, 16 or 17 different schools. The issue I raised with the Minister at the Joint Committee on Autism was whether we could get the SENOs to do that. Could we co-ordinate a plan whereby the SENOs would work with the families rather than the families having to get birth certificates, etc., every time they apply to a school?There was a positive reply from the Minister, Deputy Foley, on that day, which was approximately this time last year, in which she said she would try to organise that. I hope the Minister of State can bring that back to Minister, Deputy Foley, because it is a complex and worrying issue and takes up a great deal of time. These families are also worried not just about looking after the educational needs but also about the physical and mental needs of their loved ones. This is something which the Government and SENOs need to get more involved in.

Going back to the announcement in December, the Minister stated that the exact location of the school has not yet been revealed but that the Government was hoping to use existing school buildings. I know the former St Paul's School site in Monasterevin in south Kildare would be a location which could accommodate such a school, obviously with modification for needs. These special schools bring with them the necessary professional people needed for the complex needs of so many of the loved ones I have spoken about.

The location of the new school in south Kildare is so important. We have exact locations for the other three schools but south Kildare has just been mentioned as a general geographic area. I am sure the families who are listening today, and all of the families I deal with in growing numbers in the calls I get each week, are seeking to know exactly where in south Kildare that school location would be and, as importantly, if it will be ready for September. They cannot continue to make those 20 and 30 phone calls and cannot continue to travel to schools. I hope the Minister of State can provide some information for them today.

Photo of Dara CallearyDara Calleary (Mayo, Fianna Fail)
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I thank Senator Wall for raising this issue. A priority for this Government is to ensure all children have an appropriate school placement and that all the necessary supports are provided to our schools to cater for the needs of children with special educational needs. It is important to remember that the vast majority of children with special educational needs are supported to attend mainstream classes with their peers.

In 2023, the Department of Education spent more than €2.6 billion on special education. Further progress will be made this year as an additional €113 million will be dedicated to providing supports for children with special educational needs.

In 2024, the number of teaching and SNA posts in our schools will increase, with an additional 744 teachers and 1,216 SNAs added to deliver up to 2,700 new places for children with special educational needs. This will mean we will have in excess of 41,500 qualified and very committed people in our schools who are focused wholly and exclusively on supporting children with special educational needs.

The National Council for Special Education, NCSE, has the responsibility for planning and co-ordinating school supports for children with special educational needs. The Department of Education engages intensely with the NCSE in relation to the forward planning of new special classes and additional special school places. These initiatives are bearing fruit, with more than 1,300 new special classes sanctioned and several new special schools established over the past four years. This forward planning work is well under way ahead of the 2024-2025 school year. This work involves a detailed review of statistical data on forecasting demand for special class places, an analysis of available school accommodation, consideration of improved data sharing arrangements and a particular focus on the provision of special classes at post-primary level.

As Senator Wall has said, the Minister, Deputy Foley and the Minister of State, Deputy Madigan, announced the establishment of a further four new special schools for the 2024-2025 school year, including in south Kildare. These new schools are under the patronage of the local education and training board. This will bring to 11 the number of new special schools established nationwide in recent years.

The Department of Education is continuing to actively explore the accommodation options available to facilitate the establishment of the new special school in south Kildare. This is being advanced as quickly as possible to facilitate the delivery of accommodation for the new school in the 2024-2025 school year. Once this process has been completed, the Department will then be in a position to advise the relevant stakeholders.

It is also expected that the new special school to be established in Enfield in County Meath will help meet the needs of some students from the north Kildare region and other local areas. Both schools will cater for young people with autism and complex learning needs up to the age of 18. The schools have been sanctioned as early as possible as part of advanced planning to meet the needs of students with special educational needs due to start school next September. This was after analysis by the NCSE and the Department of Education found that the level of need in these particular areas could not be catered for by expanding places in existing schools.This analysis, which Senator Wall referred to, also considered the distances travelled by students to access a special school place. A dedicated working group comprising Department officials, ETB staff and NCSE local staff has been set up to support the establishment of the new school in the south Kildare area. The group meets regularly and continues to work to progress a range of issues related to the development of an admissions policy, staff recruitment and training. I assure the Senator that both the Department and the NCSE will continue to work closely with Kildare and Wicklow ETB to progress this, but I will also raise the issue of SENO collaboration with the Minister for Education, Deputy Foley, and the Minister of State, Deputy Madigan.

Photo of Mark WallMark Wall (Labour)
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I thank the Minister of State. I appreciate that reply. The most important thing we can take from it is that we will have a special school in south Kildare in September. That is the message that needs to go out to the many families who ring me and all public representatives in south Kildare because, as I said in my introduction, when you hear the stories you realise the stress on families. The message is that we will have a school. I have mentioned that there is a location in Monasterevin, County Kildare. There are also locations in Athy, Newbridge and elsewhere that I am sure can accommodate the needs of a special school. What we want is to ensure the school is ready in September because, at this stage, a growing number of parents cannot find a place for their loved one in September. Maybe the Minister of State will relay to the Minister and Minister of State in the Department of Education that we need to ensure the school is up and running in September. I would appreciate it if he also relayed to them my comment on SENOs, which he acknowledged, to the effect that we should work with SENOs and parents to take from the parents the stress of ringing all the schools, preparing all the birth certificates, etc. I thank the Minister of State for his reply. We look forward to the official opening of the school in September.

Cuireadh an Seanad ar fionraí ar 1.42 p.m. agus cuireadh tús leis arís ar 2.01 p.m.

Sitting suspended at 1.42 p.m. and resumed at 2.01 p.m.