Seanad debates

Tuesday, 13 February 2024

Nithe i dtosach suíonna - Commencement Matters

Defective Building Materials

1:00 pm

Photo of Victor BoyhanVictor Boyhan (Independent)
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I thank the Cathaoirleach for selecting this important Commencement matter and I thank the Minister of State for coming to deal with matter of the Government’s enhanced grant scheme for defective concrete blocks. In many ways, the Minister of State is very close to it. It is a major concern in his constituency and I note his commitment to address it. I also note his experiences and how he interacts with his constituents in respect of this important matter.

The reason I raise this is because I had been keeping an eye on the European Parliament petitions committee, which drafted a report. The report is only in draft stage yet; I think there is another bit to go on it and there is certainly comment and feedback on it. No Irish MEP is a member of the petitions committee in the European Parliament, which is interesting in itself, but Irish MEPs have observer status and clearly have looked at the documentation around this. The delegation from this committee travelled to Ireland last year. They investigated issues relating to mica following the submissions of a number of petitions received from Irish citizens. According to the draft report, the delegation found that while the State scheme was, to quote it, “very ambitious and comprehensive” - which is positive commentary by the committee - it should be widened and the red tape reduced. The EU petitions committee also found that defective blocks problem had led to severe heath, financial and social consequences that need to be tackled as a matter of urgency. We all know that. It is a very traumatic time for anyone in the context of damage to their home but , more importantly, regarding how they are going to rebuild it. There are financial and health considerations. Moving out and finding temporary accommodation are both challenges. There is also the question of from where people will get additional funding if they require it. There are many difficulties in that regard.

The petitions committee also recommended that the role and capacity of the national building and Control and Market Surveillance Office needs to be strengthened, ensuring that it is sufficiently resourced and staffed to carry out its principal function in relation to matters such as this. The committee also stated that "The market surveillance system in Ireland, both at national and local level, needs to be enhanced, adopting a stance that is proactive and persuasive, rather than reactive".

The committee's report is a draft report. We await the final version, but it does flag some concerns. The Commission says it is happy to assist the Government and to support the regions in which affected buildings are located.

This is a very traumatic time for people, particularly those in Mayo, Clare and Donegal. I am not familiar with what is happening in Mayo - the Minister of State may be able to share some information in that regard with us - but walk-in clinics are being run in Clare to assist people to navigate the process and be compliant with it. This is because the process is quite complex. There are supports in place. What we need in the short term is as much support and one-stop-shop clinics to explain matters to people and help them navigate the process.

This is a major issue. If he is in a position to provide it, I would like to hear the Minister of State's initial response to the recommendations in the EU petitions committee's draft report. I would also like him to outline how the Government intends to proceed.

Photo of Dara CallearyDara Calleary (Mayo, Fianna Fail)
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I thank Senator Boyhan for raising this very important issue. He is absolutely right. The level of distress caused by pyrite and mica in defective concrete blocks is extreme, particularly for those families who are having to live through it. On behalf of the Minister, I am in a position to give an update on the two issues raised.

The Department has received a copy of the EU petitions committee's and the Minister, Deputy Darragh O’Brien, is giving consideration to the recommendations it contains. He will also consider the recommendations in the final report when it is received.

When the Minister launched the enhanced scheme, he established an implementation steering group comprising officials from the relevant local authorities, the Department and the Housing Agency and the homeowner's liaison officer. This group met several times in recent months in order to keep the operation of the regulations and guidelines under review. The group is tasked with working through issues as they arise and making recommendations if further changes to the regulations or guidelines are needed.

Part of the implementation steering group’s remit is to produce a six-month report on the scheme. This report on the operation of the enhanced scheme covers the period July to December 2023, that is, the first six months of the scheme. I understand that the group's report will be submitted for the Minister’s consideration very soon. The Minister will give due regard to any recommendations it contains.

Almost 2,000 applications for remediation have been received under the terms of the previous and current schemes. Progress is being made in helping homeowners to fix their homes in order to allow them and their families to move on with their lives. The Senator mentioned the role of facilitators in Clare. Facilitators are also in place in Mayo. They have set up walk-in clinics and are providing advice. It is extremely important that such support is provided. I acknowledge the support that has already been providing by the staff of County Council to the relevant homeowners.

The National Building Control and Market Surveillance Office is a key element of the Government’s building control reform agenda. It will provide centralised oversight, support and direction for the development, standardisation and implementation of building controls across the 31 local authorities and building control authorities.The Department continues to work with the County and City Management Association and Dublin City Council to ensure that the National Building Control and Market Surveillance Office is properly positioned and supported to provide an optimal shared service to the local authorities. New governance structures have recently been established to provide a formal mechanism for reviewing the delivery of building control and market surveillance functions in local authorities. This will include the establishment of a national steering group for building control and market surveillance to approve and monitor the National Building Control and Market Surveillance Office's work programme. In addition, this steering group monitors and reviews annual budgets and resources for the office.

In relation to staffing, each local authority chief executive is responsible for the staffing and organisational arrangements necessary for carrying out the functions of the local authority for which he or she is responsible. This applies to both the National Building Control and Market Surveillance Office within Dublin City Council and all local building control authorities.

I thank Senator Boyhan for raising this issue and I will keep him informed of the implementation steering group's first implementation report.

Photo of Victor BoyhanVictor Boyhan (Independent)
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That is a comprehensive report. It is helpful and addresses many of the issues that I raised. As I stated at the outset, it is a draft report. The Minister of State has confirmed that the Department has it. The Minister is aware of it.

I was interested particularly in the Minister of State's response in relation to the National Building Control and Market Surveillance Office because that was one of the issues of concern about the appropriate resources. I note the involvement of the city and county managers. I am also well up on devolved functions and powers. Issues such as the appointment of staff are executive functions for the manager or the chief executive.

It is important that we move forward. There is great clarity in that. I look forward to the final report and engaging on a continuous basis with the Minister in relation to this important issue.

Photo of Paul DalyPaul Daly (Fianna Fail)
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Does the Minister of State wish to respond?