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Thursday, 29 June 2023

Nithe i dtosach suíonna - Commencement Matters

Sports Events

9:30 am

Photo of Niall Ó DonnghaileNiall Ó Donnghaile (Sinn Fein)
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Ar dtús ba mhaith liom fáilte a chur roimh an Aire Stáit. Gabhaim buíochas leis as ucht an cheist seo a fhreagairt. He is aware of the subject of this Commencement matter. I am sure he is familiar with the level of frustration, anger and upset at the paywall on GAAGO pertaining to a range of matches, not least important matches such as the all-Ireland senior football championship quarter-finals that will take place this Saturday.

Is this not, in essence, an increase to the licence fee by stealth? RTÉ is meant to be the public service broadcaster and these are our national games. I would appreciate it if the Minister of State were not on his phone. I accept that RTÉ cannot show all these games across its two stations but it would be appropriate for it to find other platforms, such as GAAGO, on which to broadcast the matches. What is the reason for the paywall, however? That is the fundamental question. What is the need for that additional cost when people already pay a licence fee?

Other public service broadcasters, such as the BBC in the North, make games available via other platforms such as the iPlayer or the red button. Those watching coverage of the Glastonbury music festival last week could press a button and view concerts from a range of different stages, as well as seeing content from earlier in the day or from historic Glastonbury festivals. That was all available on one platform provided via the licence fee people pay.

This is about fairness and value for money that is already being paid. RTÉ purchased the rights to broadcast the games. Some of them are free to air, while others are pay per view. It is important to remind ourselves that RTÉ is a 50% shareholder of the GAAGO app. It seems there is a nice circular economy going on here. In a week when RTÉ is mired in controversy over the eye-watering salaries of some of its presenters, surely we can agree the Government needs to work to ensure fairness for ordinary punters. They should be able to sit down after a hectic week and enjoy the matches, given that they are already paying for the service and should be entitled to enjoy important games, not least the semi-finals. I do not want to pick a team or declare support for a particular county. I hope County Down wins the Tailteann Cup. Unfortunately, we did not make it to this stage of the championship.

I have no doubt the Minister of State has picked up on the frustration in respect of this issue. I am sure it has been raised with him. He is probably frustrated at this strange anomaly. I accept that not every game can be shown on RTÉ 1 or RTÉ 2 and there may need to be a move to a different platform. This situation is a bit much, however, in the middle of a cost-of-living crisis when money is already tight and people's backs are against the wall. Surely the GAA, which is meant to be community-led and rooted for its members, has a responsibility in this regard. The public service broadcaster has been using money in one way but it could potentially be used in another way that would actually provide additional services to viewers, licence fee payers and sports fans.

Photo of Niall BlaneyNiall Blaney (Fianna Fail)
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The Minister of State is very welcome to the House.

Photo of Patrick O'DonovanPatrick O'Donovan (Limerick County, Fine Gael)
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I apologise for my phone ringing while the Senator was speaking. It happens to everybody from time to time. I am taking this Commencement matter on behalf of the Minister, Deputy Catherine Martin, who cannot be here today. The importance of the GAA championships to sports fans is unquestionable. Broadcasting and commercial rights, however, are a matter for the GAA and its broadcast partner.The GAA is free to enter into any commercial agreements, with the revenue generated supporting the continued development of the games from grassroots to elite level. There is always a challenge for sporting bodies in striking a balance between generating revenue and ensuring that as wide an audience as possible has access to the games. Obviously all sports fans would like to see more games broadcast and especially those involving their own counties. Over the course of the current championship 31 matches will be broadcast for GAA sports fans. This is the same number of matches that was available to viewers in the 2022 championship season, and GAAGO is providing games that were not previously available on free-to-air television. Games in previous championships were only broadcast by Sky or in some instances not available to view at all.

It is important to factor in the changes that have been made to the championship structure. More rounds and more matches are now being played over a shorter and more compacted season. The frequency of the matches being played means that there will always be occasions when high-profile games will clash. To lift the paywall as the Senator suggested would mean designating the entire championship to ensure that every game would be available free to air. The designation of major sporting and cultural events is a statutory process provided for under the Broadcasting Act with the criteria for deciding on events coming from an EU directive. Currently, the all-Ireland intercounty senior football, hurling, ladies football and camogie finals are the only Gaelic games with official designated free-to-air status. The current designation process is under way with the initial public consultation identifying events for further public consultation. The Minister, Deputy Catherine Martin, has paused the process to allow for sporting events and organisations to recover from the effects of Covid-19 health restrictions.

I understand that as a full uninterrupted sporting year has now passed, the Minister will recommence the process in the year future. The Minister will invite the public, sports bodies and stakeholders to participate and give their views on the events being considered. In addition to the consultation, a detailed independent evaluation will take place which will take into account how events meet the prescribed EU criteria and the balancing of any potential economic impacts against the benefits to the public of designating the events. On successful completion of the second stage of the process, Department officials must then engage with the European Commission, which will consider the proposed events against the criteria. The statutory process is not meant to designate an entire competition or all of one sport's matches but to protect as free-to-air events major national events of significant cultural importance to the nation.

Photo of Niall Ó DonnghaileNiall Ó Donnghaile (Sinn Fein)
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I appreciate, as I have said in all of my remarks on this issue, that there are commercial issues at work here. I appreciate the remit which the Minister of State and indeed the line Minister have to operate within. I appreciate that the Minister of State has outlined quite a substantial piece of work that needs to be carried out and that we will not resolve the issue in a Commencement matter this morning. I think and hope we can agree on one principle, regardless of protected games, into which I would like to delve a bit more down the line. I do not accept that matches cannot be provided for via another online platform such as GAAGO without the paywall, if there is the will to do that moving forward. There has to be cognisance of the real frustration and the real inequality, I suppose, coming about as a result of this. Some people can see certain games. There does not seem to be any coherence to which games will be behind a paywall and which games will not. Kerry fans have outlined that four of their team's last five games have been behind a paywall. I do not want to get into the minutiae of that. I simply want to make the case that there is a problem here that is being raised with us across the board. I think the complaints are justified complaints. Both the public service broadcaster and a community-led organisation such as the GAA need to work to ensure equity for viewers and audiences right across the island. In making the point that people should be able to watch games regardless of the platform - whether it is on their television, phone or laptop, - I am not saying that they should be able to do so for free or without cost. They are already paying their licence fee to the public service broadcaster, which should provide the broadest possible service in return. Gabhaim buíochas leis an Aire Stáit as ucht an freagra.

Photo of Patrick O'DonovanPatrick O'Donovan (Limerick County, Fine Gael)
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I reiterate that the Minister, Deputy Catherine Martin, apologises for not being here. I will ask her to reflect on the contribution made today and to revert to the Senator directly. As the House will appreciate, it is not a matter for which I have responsibility. I will ask the Minister to respond directly to the Senator.