Victor Boyhan (Independent)

I thank the Minister of State for that. That is what she is telling us. I take her in good faith and I accept that. Again, I can see the logic. Had we had a little rationale on that a day ago, we might have been able to tease out more issues and work constructively with the Minister of State. I take what she is saying in good faith. Of course, that was drafted and presented to her by the Department of children. She is saying there is no difference or nuance in relation to the care orders. She might just address the issue around the care orders. What is the difference, the tidying up, the nuance around care orders? It would be more helpful for all sides in this debate if we had a little memo or a briefing note on each of those.

I am taking it in good faith that the Minister of State believes it to be just a simple tidying-up exercise. It has full support. There are many issues in relation to legislation that might have the support of the Department of children and we would not always necessarily agree. It does not get it right all the time. None of us gets it right all the time. I take it in good faith. The Minister of State might touch on exactly the nuance or the difference in relation to care orders.