Rónán Mullen (Independent) | Oireachtas source

That was a point of information to me. I am very glad to take it. It does not in any way advance the Minister's case, needless to say. The Minister has very little to advance his case, except Government bluff and bluster. What bothers me most about the Minister's bluff and bluster is that it trivialises the life and death nature of this issue. I have absolutely no problem with the HSE putting on the record its wish to back up the Minister's case. I would be very surprised if the Minister brought forward legislation that did not have the support of the HSE because the organisation is, as we put it as Gaeilge, fite fuaite.

This is the same HSE that is, worryingly, either in the pockets of politicians or activists, as we heard in the context of the area of transgender and the treatment of children and adults with gender dysphoria.