Roderic O'Gorman (Dublin West, Green Party) | Oireachtas source

Counselling services was one of the issues we discussed when I met one of the survivors recently. We have written to St. John Ambulance in terms of having an independent third party through which a request for counselling could go, rather than going through the organisation. The Senator is absolutely right in terms of the aggressive approach that has been adopted. It is hugely unlikely that anyone is going to take it up. We have been advising them to obtain a third party through which any contacts for counselling can be undertaken.

We will come back to Senator Doherty about those two years. I take her point in terms of the EWSS payments. As I said, we have also been in touch with the Charities Regulator. We will continue our engagement in terms of the sums at which we are looking and the totality from the two different funding streams, and how that matches or otherwise with the accounts for 2020 and 2021 we have seen in respect of the overall amounts.