Seanad debates

Wednesday, 31 May 2023

Mother and Baby Institutions Payment Scheme Bill 2022: Committee Stage (Resumed)

 

10:30 am

Photo of Victor BoyhanVictor Boyhan (Independent) | Oireachtas source

The Minister has set out his reasoning clearly. That is his position and that is all fine. He spoke of recognising experiences. I think we need to say "some" experiences. We have not covered all the experiences. The Minister has listened so often to the victims. This is not comprehensive legislation, as he accepts. There are shortcomings; one cannot capture everything. I understand that.

I have talked all along about parallel processes to this Bill and we can look at those in the future. It is important to sent out a message to people listening. There are many people who do not feel this legislation acknowledges and recognises their unique experiences. They are not unique experiences in that while they are unique to some people, many people have had the same experience. It is not a unique, sole experience, it is a unique experience and therefore to suggest that the Bill recognises all the experiences is not correct. It does not recognise all the experiences. We have to accept that.

The Minister has set out his position and has not accepted any amendments from Senators on this Stage. That is a discussion for another day. I hope we can have some meaningful engagement on the next Stage.

I thank the Minister for his time. As I said, I do not doubt his personal commitment to this legislation. He has brought it further on perhaps from where it was a year ago and I want to acknowledge that.

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