Shane Cassells (Fianna Fail) | Oireachtas source

I do not want to be at odds with Senator Sherlock because we are not at odds in any sense but let us be fair in the debate on levelling down or levelling up. Trade unions are adept at using the media to put their point across as well. I am not saying their point is wrong; I am playing devil's advocate as the Senator has talked about business interests. I have seen unions take out full-page advertisements as well to put forward their point of view so that can also be argued. We should be balanced and both sides do it. To go back to the Senator's point on levelling up or levelling down, it is the platforms that are at issue, not the substance of the points being discussed.