Seanad debates

Thursday, 5 November 2020

Criminal Justice (Theft and Fraud Offences) (Amendment) Bill 2020: Second Stage

 

10:30 am

Photo of Robbie GallagherRobbie Gallagher (Fianna Fail) | Oireachtas source

The Minister of State is welcome back into the House for consideration of this legislation, which is short and technical. We in Fianna Fáil are happy to support this Bill transposing EU directives that will help in the fight against fraud and that will be in the financial interests of the EU. It is critical that we have good co-operation across the EU when it comes to tackling areas of fraud such as those mentioned. I understand the level of fraud involved is largely unknown.However, some informed sources have said that the figure could reach as much €500 million per annum, a sizeable sum of money in anybody's language. It is important that such a large sum of money, which could be used for the benefit of EU citizens, is not lost. We can think of many areas in need of funding and this is a massive amount of money, so it is vital that every effort is made to ensure there is a consistent approach to fighting fraud such as this across the EU.

The Minister of State mentioned that not all member states have transposed this directive into their national law. Why is there a problem with some states? The Minister of State mentioned Portugal and a few others. Is there a particular problem or what is the reason for the delay? How many member states have yet to sign up to the directive, and is there a timeframe for it to be transposed into the member states' legal systems? With regard to this type of fraud, do we have arrangements with other states outside the EU and what is the position there? In the context of Brexit and our neighbour, the UK, leaving the EU, what effect will that have on existing arrangements that may be in place in respect of this type of fraud? Are there any plans to formulate a relationship with the UK after 31 December when Britain leaves the EU?

I am happy to support the Bill on behalf of Fianna Fáil, and I look forward to it being passed speedily by the House.

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