Jerry Buttimer (Fine Gael) | Oireachtas source

As Senator Paddy Burke said off mic to Senator McDowell, he was the leader of a political party and he did nothing in terms of Seanad reform. In fact, at one time he and his party were in favour of abolition if I am not mistaken. Let us put things in context. We can all change our position and our minds. That is fair enough.