David Norris (Independent) | Oireachtas source

That is exactly what I am discussing. What I have been saying is that if these issues had not been raised by Senators, there would have been talk of such amendments during the course of the 74 or 75 hours of debate. That is something the Minister condemns, as does his colleague. I am not sure how I should put it, but I think it is the most neutral word I can find.