Seanad debates

Tuesday, 30 January 2018

Technological Universities Bill 2015: Second Stage

 

2:30 pm

Photo of David NorrisDavid Norris (Independent) | Oireachtas source

I agree completely with Senator Boyhan about the ETBs.We face a critical situation here. Between 2008 and 2015, funding was cut by a massive 35%, lecturer numbers fell by 9.5% while student numbers rose by a staggering 32%. That is a matter of concern. I am also concerned about the downgrading of respect for the Irish language and ask that it be looked at.

However, great improvements have been made to the Bill during its progress through the Houses. There is protection for terms and conditions, enhanced representation of academic staff on technological university governing bodies and provision for nationally agreed collective agreements. The amendment of the merger process from a two-step to one-step process means avoiding the potential scenario where a merged entity did not receive technological university status. However, the merger of geographically distinct institutions seems extraordinary. While there is a geographical imperative around a technological university for Dublin and that is perfectly reasonable, a Munster technological university involving Cork Institute of Technology and Institute of Technology, Tralee, would mean merging two considerably separated institutions. The same is true in the south east and with the Connacht-Ulster alliance. A Munster technological university is likely to have its headquarters in Tralee despite the fact that there are only 4,000 students there as compared to 14,000 in Cork. Tralee has been running a deficit of over €1 million for years. There is a possibility it could be used to shed that.

The EUROSTAT review of the status of traditional universities means it is highly unlikely that technological universities will be able to borrow directly from the European Investment Bank without the debt appearing on Government borrowings. This is a plank the Government set out when it introduced and first promoted the Bill. There is then the question of the distinctive ethos of the institutes of technology. They have a distinct role and ethos and concentrate on students. There is greater contact with weaker students, there are more lectures and there is a greater focus on practicals and laboratory work. There are so many different things which are characteristic of technological universities.

There is then the question of the appointment of presidents. This should be by way of open competition from the very start. The first presidential appointment should be done by way of an open method and not just by way of internal competition. I note that no staff or students will be represented for the first six months. I do not see why this should have to happen. Why not appoint existing staff and students for this period? I am very grateful to have been allowed in as I have to go to a funeral in Cork tomorrow and would otherwise not be able to take part.

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